VAT Return Box 1& 6 Showing No VAT

Hi, I hope someone can help?

I’m doing my VAT return and have never really question it before but noticed on this occasion that the Box 1 figure didn’t look right. I’m on cash accounting and did the backing report export to take a look. I can see that the correct 4 invoices are listed but their total amounts show under the Net column and the VAT column are empty for both box 1 and 6. All 4 sales invoices were created with a 20% VAT listed (and can be seen when I go back to the entry in Quickfile). On top of that, the amount it says I owe is greater than the 4 invoices VAT amounts combined - even with some purchases reducing the amount.

Am I missing something?

Regards,

Hello @james_murphy

I have just taken a look at the account linked to your email.

The current vat scheme is set to Cash Accounting (Flat Rate @ 20.00%)

You will see this message when drilling down on box 1

If the scheme is incorrect and you should be on cash accounting go into Reports > Vat Returns > Settings and de select the flat rate option.

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Ok, thanks for this. I will take a look.

One quick question though - and this may just be one of those accountancy things that I don’t quite get - if each of the those 4 invoices have 20 % VAT applied and you totalled each of those VAT amounts, how is it that that value is lower than just applying 20% Flat Rate after the fact, which appears to be higher in this case? Wouldn’t the values be the same?

Regards,

I realise that my question might be a of a mess so have tired to simplify my question below.

If I have 4 sales invoices that each charged £50 VAT at a 20% rate, I would expect my VAT Tax bill at most to be £200. With whatever I have set currently, I seem to be charged more. Is this some quirk of the Flat Rate scheme or something that I have configured incorrectly on Quickfile?

Regards,

Hello @james_murphy

Flat Rate Vat

Typically when you are on flat rate the vat % on sales is lowed than 20%.
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4 sales invoices that each charged £50 VAT at a 20% rate

So do you mean entering it like this

4 x £250 net and £50 vat (£300 gross)

or

4 x £14.67 net and 8.33 vat (£50 Gross )

either way the flat rate scheme looks at the gross value

(4x £300) * 0.2 = £240

or
(4 x £50) * 0.2 = £40

Thanks Steve - I need to review some bits then.

Thanks for your help.

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